Нагорный Карабах, Противостояние Армении и Азербайджана

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Цитата (fahed @ Окт 28 2020, 09:40)

очередной АН азербайджанцев сбит.  МЗА штоле?

в смысле? там ракету видать. а ан камикадзе оказывается

[fahed]

Цитата (bayrin @ Окт 28 2020, 09:45)

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в смысле? там ракету видать. а ан камикадзе оказывается

Я значит ракету не заметил. Про АНы с самого начала известно, их переделали в БПЛА для того, чтобы выявлять ПВО и в слычае чего использовать как камикадзе.

[fahed]

Последняя обстановка на фронте по состоянию на 28 октября

В течение дня 27 октября и в ночь на 28 октября подразделения вооруженных сил Армении, не соблюдающие режим гуманитарного прекращения огня, подвергли обстрелу из различных видов оружия позиции подразделений Азербайджанской Армии на различных направлениях фронта и населенные пункты вблизи прифронтовой зоны.
Боевые операции продолжались в основном на Агдеринском, Ходжавендском, Физулинском, Зангиланском и Губадлинском направлениях фронта. Попытки противника атаковать были решительно пресечены, и он отступил, неся потери.
В результате принятых ответных мер против вооруженных сил Армении на различных направлениях фронта среди личного состава противника есть убитые и раненые. Уничтожены несколько единиц боевой техники врага. В результате нанесения артиллерийскому подразделению противника урона огнем были уничтожены его пушки и снаряды на огневой позиции.
Стало известно, что значительное сокращение количества автомобильной техники противника создало проблемы с поставкой продовольствия, вооружения и боеприпасов подразделениям на передовой.
Продолжается процесс отправки собранных из Армении резервистов на оккупированные территории Азербайджана. Несмотря на приказ набрать 2000 человек для привлечения к боевым действиям, удалось собрать только 300 человек. Даже многие контрактники и полицейские отказываются идти на фронт.
Вчера в течение дня и ночи на различных направлениях фронта были уничтожены и выведены из строя большое количество живой силы, а также 1 ЗРК «Оса», 3 РСЗО БМ-21 «Град», 6 Д-30, 5 Д-20 и 1 Д-44 гаубицы-пушки, 2 пушки 2А36 «Гиацинт-Б», 1 120-мм миномёт, 1 противотанковый ракетный комплекс (ПТРК) «Конкурс» и 6 единиц автомобильной техники противника.
В настоящее время наши войска контролируют оперативную обстановку.



+ еще один упавший БПЛА азербайджана

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[Pampa]

На 0:40 на втором волшебный чемоданчик?

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Цитата (Pampa @ Окт 28 2020, 10:12)

На 0:40 на втором волшебный чемоданчик?

Перед ним тоже что-то замаскированное на базе 66.

[12th]

Минимум дивизион в день крестиков выдают.
Если бы мы когда нибудь узнали настоящую цифру армянских потерь с разбивкой по родам войск, то очень бы удивились нетипичному проценту павших среди тыловиков и артиллеристов.

[fahed]

Суточной давности обновление от Орикса



Armenia / Republic of Artsakh

Tanks (171, of which destroyed: 101, damaged: 4, captured: 66)
50 T-72A: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16, destroyed by loitering munition) (17, destroyed by loitering munition) (18, destroyed by loitering munition) (19, destroyed by loitering munition) (20, destroyed by Spike NLOS) (21, damaged) (22, damaged) (23, damaged and captured) (24, damaged and captured) (25, damaged and captured) (26, captured) (27, captured) (28, captured) (29, captured) (30, captured) (31, captured) (32, captured) (33, captured) (34, captured) (35, captured) (36, captured) (37, captured) (38, 39 and 40, captured) (41 and 42, captured) (43 and 44, captured) (45, captured) (46, captured) (47, captured) (48, captured) (49, captured) (50, captured)
2 T-72AK: (1, damaged and captured) (2, captured)
15 T-72AV: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, damaged and captured) (5, captured) (6, captured) (7, captured) (8, captured) (9, captured) (10, captured) (11 and 12, captured) (13, captured) (14, captured) (15, recaptured)
33 T-72B: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed by loitering munition) (11, destroyed by loitering munition) (12, destroyed by loitering munition) (13, destroyed by loitering munition) (14, damaged and captured) (15, captured) (16, captured) (17, captured) (18, captured) (19, captured) (20, captured) (21, captured) (22 and 23, captured) (24 and 25, captured) (26, captured) (27, captured) (28, captured) (29, captured) (30, captured) (31, captured) (32, captured) (33, captured)
71 Unknown T-72: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6. destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16, destroyed) (17, destroyed) (18, destroyed) (19, destroyed) (20, destroyed) (21, destroyed) (22, destroyed) (23, destroyed) (24, destroyed) (25, destroyed) (26, destroyed) (27, destroyed) (28, destroyed) (29, destroyed) (30, destroyed) (31, destroyed) (32, destroyed) (33, destroyed) (34, destroyed) (35, destroyed) (36, destroyed) (37, destroyed) (38, destroyed) (39, destroyed) (40, destroyed) (41, destroyed) (42, destroyed) (43, destroyed) (44, destroyed) (45, destroyed) (46, destroyed) (47, destroyed) (48, destroyed) (49, destroyed) (50, destroyed) (51, destroyed) (52, destroyed) (53, destroyed) (54, destroyed) (55, destroyed) (56, destroyed) (57, destroyed) (58, destroyed) (59, destroyed) (60, destroyed) (61, destroyed by loitering munition) (62, destroyed by loitering munition) (63, destroyed by loitering munition) (64, destroyed by loitering munition) (65, destroyed by Spike NLOS) (66 damaged) (67, damaged) (68, captured) (69, captured) (70, captured) (71, captured)


Armoured fighting vehicles (30, of which destroyed: 18, captured: 12)
14 MT-LB with Zastava M55 AA gun: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, captured) (9, captured) (10, captured) (11, 12 and 13, captured) (14, captured)
4 MT-LB with ZU-23 AA gun: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, captured)
1 MT-LB with AZP S-60 AA gun: (1, destroyed)
5 MT-LB: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (2, captured) (3 and 4, captured)
1 BRM-1K: (1, destroyed by Spike NLOS)
1 BRDM-2: (1, captured)
1 BTR-70: (1, destroyed)
3 Unknown AFV: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed)

Infantry fighting vehicles (37, of which destroyed: 18, captured: 19)
16 BMP-1: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, damaged and captured) (8, captured) (9, captured) (10, captured) (11, captured) (12, captured) (13, captured) (14, captured) (15, captured) (16, captured)
18 BMP-2: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed by loitering munition) (10, captured) (11, captured) (12, captured) (13, captured) (14, captured) (15, captured) (16, captured) (17, captured) (18, captured)
3 Unknown BMP: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed by Spike NLOS)

Armoured recovery vehicles (2, of which captured: 2)
2 BTS-2: (1, captured) (2, captured)

Self-propelled anti-tank missile system (2, of which captured: 2)
1 9P148 Konkurs: (1, captured)
1 9P149 Shturm-S: (1, captured)

Towed artillery (79, of which destroyed: 54, damaged: 6, captured: 19)
1 85mm D-44 divisional gun: (1, damaged)
5 100mm KS-19 AA gun used as howitzer: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed)
40 122mm (D-30) howitzer 2A18: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16, destroyed) (17, destroyed) (18, destroyed) (19, destroyed) (20, destroyed) (21, destroyed) (22, destroyed) (23, destroyed) (24, destroyed) (25, destroyed) (26, destroyed) (27, destroyed) (28, destroyed by Spike NLOS) (29, destroyed by Spike NLOS) (30, captured) (31, captured) (32, captured) (33, 34 and 35, captured) (36, captured) (37, captured) (38 and 39, captured) (40, captured)
11 152mm (D-1) gun-howitzer M-1943: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, captured) (9 and 10, captured) (11, captured)
18 152mm (D-20) gun-howitzer M-1955: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed by Spike NLOS) (10, damaged) (11, damaged) (12 and 13, damaged) (14, damaged) (15, captured) (16, captured) (17, captured) (18, captured)
4 152mm 2A36 Giatsint-B field-gun: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed)

Self-propelled artillery (14, of which destroyed: 13, damaged: 1)
10 122mm 2S1 Gvozdika: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, damaged)
4 152mm 2S3 Akatsiya: (1, destroyed by loitering munition) (2, destroyed by loitering munition) (3, destroyed by loitering munition) (4, destroyed by loitering munition)

Multiple rocket launchers (60, of which destroyed: 60)
55 122mm BM-21 'Grad': (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16, destroyed) (17, destroyed) (18 destroyed) (19, destroyed) (20, destroyed) (21, destroyed) (22, destroyed) (23, destroyed) (24, destroyed) (25, destroyed) (26, destroyed) (27, destroyed) (28, destroyed) (29, destroyed) (30, destroyed) (31, destroyed) (32, destroyed) (33, destroyed) (34, destroyed) (35, destroyed) (36, destroyed) (37, destroyed) (38, destroyed) (39, destroyed) (40, destroyed) (41, destroyed) (42, destroyed) (43, destroyed) (44, destroyed) (45, destroyed) (46, destroyed) (47, destroyed) (48, destroyed) (49, destroyed by loitering munition) (50, destroyed by loitering munition) (51, destroyed by loitering munition) (52, destroyed by loitering munition) (53, destroyed by loitering munition) (54, destroyed by Spike NLOS) (55, destroyed by Spike NLOS)
2 273mm WM-80: (1 and 2, destroyed)
1 220mm TOS-1A: (1, destroyed)
1 300mm BM-30 'Smerch': (1, destroyed by loitering munition)
1 Unknown MRL: (1, destroyed)

Ballistic Missiles (1, of which destroyed: 1)
1 R-17 'Scud-B': (1, destroyed)

Mortars (9, of which destroyed: 1, captured: 8)
2 60mm M57: (1 and 2, captured)
5 120mm M75: (1, captured) (2, captured) (3, captured) (4, captured) (5, captured)
2 Unknown mortar: (1, destroyed) (2, captured) (3, captured)

Self-propelled anti-aircraft guns (1, of which destroyed: 1)
1 ZSU-23-4 'Shilka': (1, destroyed)

Surface-to-air missile systems (21, of which destroyed: 21)
3 9K35 Strela-10: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed)
11 9K33 Osa: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed by loitering munition) (11, destroyed by loitering munition)
1 2K12 Kub (inoperational): (1, destroyed)
5 5P85S (launcher for S-300PS): (1 and 2, destroyed) (3, destroyed by loitering munition) (4, destroyed by loitering munition) (5, destroyed by loitering munition)
1 S-300 component: (1, destroyed)

Radars (11, of which destroyed: 11)
1 P-18 ''Spoon Rest D'': (1, destroyed)
4 ST86U/36D6 ''Tin Shield'' (for S-300): (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed by loitering munition) (3, destroyed by loitering munition) (4, destroyed by loitering munition)
1 SNR-125 ''Low Blow'' (for S-125): (1, destroyed by loitering munition)
2 5N63S ''Flap Lid'' (for S-300): (1, destroyed by loitering munition) (2, destroyed by loitering munition)
1 19J6 (for S-300): (1, destroyed)
1 1S32 ''Pat Hand'' (for 2K11 Krug): (1, destroyed)
1 1S91 SURN (for 2K12 Kub): (1, destroyed)

Jammers and Deception systems (1, of which destroyed: 1)
1 Repellent-1: (1, destroyed)

Aircraft (1, of which destroyed: 1)
1 Su-25K (1, crashed)

Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (4, of which destroyed: 4)
1 X-55: (1, destroyed)
1 Quadcopter drone: (1, crashed)
1 Suicide quadcopter drone: (1, crashed)
1 Unknown UAV: (1, destroyed)

Trucks, Vehicles and Jeeps (355, of which destroyed: 171, damaged: 5 captured: 179)
6 GAZ-66: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, captured) (5, captured) (6, captured)
26 GAZ-3308: (1, destroyed) (2 and 3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed by Spike NLOS) (6, damaged and captured) (7, damaged and captured) (8, captured) (9, captured) (10, captured) (11, captured) (12, captured) (13, captured) (14, captured) (15, captured) (16, captured) (17, captured) (18, captured) (19, captured) (20, captured) (21, captured) (22, captured) (23, captured) (24, captured) (25 and 26, captured)
1 9T217 transloader (for 9K33 Osa): (1, destroyed)
32 KamAZ: (1, destroyed) (2 and 3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, 6 and 7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed by loitering munition) (15, destroyed by loitering munition) (16, damaged and captured) (17, damaged and captured) (18, captured) (19, captured) (20, captured) (21 and 22, captured) (23, captured) (24, captured) (25, captured) (26, captured) (27, captured) (28, captured) (29, captured) (30, captured) (31, captured) (32, captured)
24 ZiL-131: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed by loitering munition) (6, destroyed by Spike NLOS) (7, damaged and captured) (8, captured) (9, captured) (10, captured) (11, captured) (12, captured) (13, captured) (14, captured) (15, captured) (16, captured) (17, captured) (18, captured) (19 and 20, captured) (21, captured) (22, captured) (23, captured) (24, captured)
3 Ural-375A: (1, captured) (2, captured) (3, captured)
81 Ural-4320: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16 and 17, destroyed) (18, destroyed) (19, destroyed) (20, destroyed) (21, destroyed) (22, destroyed) (23, destroyed) (24, destroyed) (25, destroyed) (26, destroyed) (27 and 28, destroyed) (29 and 30, destroyed) (31, destroyed) (32, destroyed) (33, destroyed) (34, destroyed) (35, destroyed) (36, destroyed) (37, destroyed) (38, destroyed) (39, destroyed) (40, destroyed) (41, destroyed) (42, destroyed) (43, destroyed) (44, destroyed) (45, destroyed) (46, destroyed) (47, destroyed) (48, destroyed) (49, destroyed) (50, destroyed by loitering munition) (51, damaged) (52, captured) (53, captured) (54, captured) (55, captured) (56, captured) (57, captured) (58, captured) (59, captured) (60, captured) (61, captured) (62, captured) (63, captured) (64, captured) (65, captured) (66, captured) (67, captured) (68 and 69, captured) (70, captured) (71, captured) (72, captured) (73, captured) (74, captured) (75, captured) (76, captured) (77, captured) (78, captured) (79, captured) (80, captured) (81, captured)
37 Ural-43206: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, damaged and captured) (10, captured) (11, damaged and captured) (12, damaged and captured) (13, damaged and captured) (14, captured) (15, captured) (16, captured) (17, captured) (18, captured) (19, captured) (20, captured) (21, captured) (22, captured) (23, 24, 25, 26 and 27, captured) (28, captured) (29 and 30, captured) (31, captured) (32, captured) (33, captured) (34, captured) (35, 36 and 37, captured)
8 UAZ-452: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, damaged and captured) (5, captured) (6, captured) (7, captured) (8, captured) (9, captured)
21 UAZ-469: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, damaged and captured) (10, damaged and captured) (11, damaged and captured) (12, damaged and captured) (13, captured) (14, captured) (15, captured) (16, captured) (17, captured) (18, captured) (19, captured) (20, captured) (21, captured)
1 UAZ Patriot: (1, destroyed)
7 UAZ-23602-130: (1, captured) (2, captured) (3, captured) (4, captured) (5, captured) (6, captured) (7, captured)
7 UAZ-23632: (1, destroyed) (2, captured) (3, captured) (4, captured) (5, captured) (6, captured) (7, captured)
65 Unknown truck: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, destroyed) (13, destroyed) (14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16 and 17, destroyed) (18, destroyed) (19, destroyed) (20, destroyed) (21, destroyed) (22, destroyed) (23, destroyed) (24, destroyed) (25, destroyed) (26, destroyed) (27, destroyed) (28, destroyed) (29, destroyed) (30, destroyed) (31, destroyed) (32, destroyed) (33, destroyed) (34, destroyed) (35, destroyed) (36, destroyed) (37, destroyed) (38, destroyed) (39, destroyed) (40, destroyed) (41, destroyed by loitering munition) (42, destroyed by loitering munition) (43, destroyed by loitering munition) (44, destroyed by loitering munition) (45, destroyed by loitering munition) (46 destroyed by loitering munition) (47, 48, 49 and 50, damaged) (51, captured) (52, captured) (53 and 54, captured) (55, captured) (56, 57, 58 and 59, captured) (60, captured) (61, captured) (62, captured) (63, captured) (64, captured) (65, captured)
30 Van or jeep: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, 5 and 6, destroyed) (7 and 8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, 13 and 14, destroyed) (15, destroyed) (16, destroyed) (17, 18 and 19, destroyed by loitering munition) (20, damaged and captured) (21, captured) (22, captured) (23, captured) (24, captured) (25, captured) (26, captured) (27, captured) (28, captured) (29, captured) (30, captured)
1 Bus (carrying reinforcements): (1, destroyed by loitering munition)
1 Tank trailer: (1, destroyed)
1 S-300 trailer: (1, destroyed)


Decoys (2, of which destroyed: 2)
2 Decoy 9K33 Osa: (1, destroyed by loitering munition) (2, destroyed by loitering munition)

Strategic locations hit (16)
Radio mast: (1)
military base: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5, hit by Spike NLOS) (6, hit by Spike NLOS)
command post: (1) (2) (3) (4)
storage depot: (1) (2, hit by loitering munition)
Stepanakert Airport: (1, hit by loitering munition)

Anti-tank guided missiles (42 captured, of which 7 launcher or optic)
13 9M111 Fagot: (1, 2, 3 and 4, captured) (5, 6, 7 and 8, captured) (9, 10 and 11, captured) (12 and 13, captured)
11 9M113 Konkurs: (1, captured) (2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7, captured) (8, captured) (9 and 10, captured) (11, captured)
6 9M115 Metis: (1 and 2, captured) (3, 4, 5 and 6, captured)
4 9P135M launcher for the 9M111 Fagot and 9M113 Konkurs: (1, captured) (2, captured) (3, captured) (4, captured)
6 9M133M-2 Kornet-EM: (1, 2 and 3, captured) (4, 5 and 6, captured)
2 9P163 launcher for the 9M133 Kornet: (1, captured) (2, captured)
1 1PN65 'Trakt-1' thermal optic for 9P135M Konkurs ATGM launcher: (1, captured)

Azerbaijan

Tanks (25, of which destroyed: 16, damaged: 6, captured: 2, captured but later lost: 1)
1 T-72 'Ural': (1, destroyed)
3 T-72A: (1, destroyed) (2, damaged) (3, damaged)
7 T-72AV/T-72 ''Aslan'': (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, damaged) (5, damaged) (6, damaged) (7, captured by Armenia, but later recaptured by Azerbaijan)
12 Unknown T-72: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, destroyed) (10, destroyed) (11, destroyed) (12, damaged)
2 T-90S: (1, damaged and captured) (2, damaged and captured)


Armoured fighting vehicles (11, of which damaged: 3, captured: 8)
8 BTR-70: (1, captured) (2, captured) (3, captured) (4, captured) (5, captured) (6 and 7, captured) (8, captured)
3 Unknown AFV: (1, 2 and 3, damaged and abandoned)

Infantry fighting vehicles (23, of which destroyed: 11, damaged: 2, captured: 10)
2 BMP-1: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed)
12 BMP-2: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, damaged) (7, damaged and captured) (8, captured) (9, captured) (10, captured) (11, captured) (12, captured)
1 BMP-3: (1, destroyed)
5 BTR-82A: (1, damaged) (2, damaged and captured) (3, captured) (4, captured) (5, captured)
3 Unknown BMP: (1, destroyed) (2 and 3, destroyed)


Engineering equipment (1, of which damaged: 1)
1 IMR-2: (1, damaged)

Aircraft and Helicopters (8, of which destroyed: 8)
8 An-2 (used as unmanned bait in order for Armenia to reveal the location of air defence systems): (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, crashed)
1 Mi-8/17 (Loss admitted by Azerbaijan)

Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (23, of which destroyed: 22, captured: 1)
1 Aerostar surveillance UAV: (1, crashed)
11 IAI Harop loitering munition: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed) (9, crashed in Iran) (10, crashed in Iran) (11, crashed in Georgia)
1 SkyStriker loitering munition: (1, crashed)
1 Orbiter 1K loitering munition: (1, damaged and captured)
1 Bayraktar TB2 UCAV: (1, crashed)
8 Unknown UAV: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4, destroyed) (5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed) (8, destroyed)


Trucks, Vehicles and Jeeps (19, of which destroyed: 13, damaged: 5, captured: 1)
2 Ural-4320: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed)
3 KamAZ: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, captured)
1 MAZ: (1, damaged)
1 Marauder MRAP: (1, damaged)
3 Matador MRAP: (1, damaged) (2 and 3, damaged)
1 Plasan Sand Cat: (1, destroyed)
7 Unknown truck: (1, destroyed) (2, destroyed) (3, destroyed) (4 and 5, destroyed) (6, destroyed) (7, destroyed)
1 Van or jeep: (1, destroyed)

[Олег]

Цитата (12th @ Окт 28 2020, 10:23)

Минимум дивизион в день крестиков выдают.
Если бы мы когда нибудь узнали настоящую цифру армянских потерь с разбивкой по родам войск, то очень бы удивились нетипичному проценту павших среди тыловиков и артиллеристов.

Я думаю что Азербайджан выкладывает почти всё или вообще всё что есть и в большинстве случаев людей рядом с техникой уже нет. Так что можно подсчитать.

[Pampa]

Цитата (Олег @ Сегодня, 10:27)

Я думаю что Азербайджан выкладывает почти всё или вообще всё

А я думаю что нет.

[Pampa]

Цитата (12th @ Окт 28 2020, 10:23)

Минимум дивизион в день крестиков выдают.
Если бы мы когда нибудь узнали настоящую цифру армянских потерь с разбивкой по родам войск, то очень бы удивились нетипичному проценту павших среди тыловиков и артиллеристов.

Почти в самом начале войны это обсуждали, экспертi почему то упускают этот момент в применении беспилотников.

Новая война, в основном то выбивают тылы и огневую поддержку.

[pfc_joker]

Цитата (Pampa @ Окт 28 2020, 10:12)

На 0:40 на втором волшебный чемоданчик?

Какая-то радиомачта. ИМХО вынесли какое-то гражданское оборудование связи (которое, разумеется, могло использоваться и в военных целях тоже; управление войсками по мобилке – вообще своего рода норма в постсоветских армиях).

Не думаю, что в Арцахе строили стационарные башни РЭБ.

[Legio_X]

Цитата (bayrin @ Окт 28 2020, 09:43)

предположу, что взвод отправили организовать опорник. на усиление придали танк и бэху. танк сломался, приехала брэм на эвакуацию. и тут с тыла появился азербайджанский флаг. окопы не дорыты, ленты не снаряжены, бежать долго и далеко, пришлось все бросать и бежать налегке...

Возможно. Морально - волевым там похоже вообще звизда, фсё, сдулись ары.

[fahed]

Цитата (fahed @ Окт 28 2020, 09:53)

+ еще один упавший БПЛА азербайджана

Вроде как дырки от ПЭ есть таки на другом, итого 2 Скайстрайкера за два дня - 151 и 179.

[12th]

Цитата (Олег @ Окт 28 2020, 10:27)

Я думаю что Азербайджан выкладывает почти всё или вообще всё что есть и в большинстве случаев людей рядом с техникой уже нет. Так что можно подсчитать.

Ориентировочно в 25-30% случаев нанесения ударов по буксируемой артиллерии и позициям минометов расчеты начинают разбегаться непосредственно перед прилетом ракеты. Я бы предположил что:
1) БПЛА расчеты не слышат
2) Слышат прилет ракеты
3) После поражения первого орудия на позиции остальные расчеты уходят в укрытия

[12th]

Цитата (Pampa @ Окт 28 2020, 10:35)

Почти в самом начале войны это обсуждали, экспертi почему то упускают этот момент в применении беспилотников.

Новая война, в основном то выбивают тылы и огневую поддержку.

ИМХО многие експертi находились под влиянием войн последних 10 лет в Ливии и Сирии, когда основная масса роликов была от боевых штыков первой линии - пехотинцев, противотанкистов, танкистов и расчетов тяжелого вооружения. Так же стоит отметить что те армии которые могли бы выдать качественных годных крестиков (США, бриты, французы и израильтяне) сражались зачастую с тапкобабахами или армиями не сильно от них отличающимися у которых тяжело было выделить настоящую тыловую и артиллерийскую составляющую.

[Pampa]

Да, тут первое столкновение двух более менее равных постсоветских армий. И у одной из сторон полное преимущество в беспилотниках.

[Pampa]

Турки с молотками и ножами напали на митингующих армян во Франции

https://lenta.ru/news/2020/10/28/turkarm/

[Prefect]

https://lenta.ru/news/2020/10/27/pashinyan_udar/
Пашинян анонсировал подготовку контрудара в Карабахе

Не сторонник теории заговоров, но реально жи сливает.
Товарищи армяне, у вас есть только один вариант как не проебать НК полностью: повесить долбоеба на главной площади в ереване, в Москве соглашаться на все, в обмен на поставки РСЗО, Тор, Панцирь, Орланы,С-300, ПЗРК. Организовать парочку позиционных районов РСЗО грамотно прикрытых выше перечисленным ПВО, непрерывно 24/7 ебашить РСЗО по наступающему и обороняющемуся противнику с корректировкой от Орланов. ИМХО, единственный реальный и бюджетный вариант, спецы для торов, с-300, рсзо у армян есть.

[bayrin]

хм, как то они не похожи на оригинальные скайстрайкеры